KTEP - El Paso, Texas

'It's Hurtful': Trans Youth Speaks Out As Alabama Debates Banning Medical Treatment

Mar 28, 2021
Originally published on March 29, 2021 1:31 pm

Syrus Hall, a 17-year-old from Mobile, Ala., has heard it all before: "You'll grow out of it." "It's a phase." "You're just confused."

"It makes me mad," he says.

Hall is transgender and in the early stages of his transition; he gets weekly shots of a low dose of testosterone.

"I worked really hard to be able to transition," he says. "I dealt with bullying at school, and people being mean to me just because I exist. If I can deal with that, I know who I am. I'm not going to go back."

So Hall is watching with alarm as the Alabama legislature advances bills that would outlaw hormone treatment for him and other trans youth in the state.

Thinking of the bills' proponents, he says, "Why should some guy who has never met me ... why should he get to tell me what I can and can't do? Why does he get to decide what is right for people who just want to be happy?"

This year, state legislatures have proposed a record number of anti-transgender bills.

Alabama is one of 20 states that have introduced bills that would prohibit gender-affirming medical care for trans youth.

Loading...

And Alabama's bill is one of the toughest.

It would make it a felony to provide transition-related medical treatment, such as puberty blockers, hormones or surgery, to transgender minors.

"I didn't have the words for what I felt"

A high school junior, Hall hopes to study forensics in college. "I'm thinking about being either a forensics investigator or a forensic psychologist," he says.

Hall was assigned female at birth. But, he says, when he hit puberty around fifth grade, "That's when I started to fully get uncomfortable with, like, the way that I looked or the way that I felt. Like, in my head I looked a different way than I looked in the mirror."

Even though he was feeling this way, he didn't know how to explain it. "I felt different than everyone else that I knew," he says, "but I didn't have the words for what I felt. Like, I didn't know that trans people existed until I was about 12 or 13. I had never heard of trans people."

That's where the Internet comes in. Hall spent long nights online doing research to figure out who he is, and ultimately, over time, he came out as trans to his family.

Hall and his mother, Carla Saunée, found a clinic in Birmingham that provides medical care to trans youth. For his appointments, they wake up at 3 a.m. and drive four hours from Mobile to meet with the pediatric gender health team from the University of Alabama at Birmingham, which includes a pediatrician, endocrinologist, psychologists and a chaplain.

After lengthy psychological counseling, and with his mother's permission, Hall was prescribed testosterone.

"He's more himself"

On a recent Zoom call with his pediatrician from UAB, Dr. Morissa Ladinsky, Hall talked joyfully about the changes he's started to see.

"The first thing I noticed was hair," he told her. "You start growing so much hair! And I was excited because I was like, 'Oh, something's happening! This is so cool!' And then I started noticing my voice changing a little bit."

"That voice – I'm lovin' it!" Ladinsky replied, and as she heard Hall chuckle, she added, "See, that laugh. I love that laugh!"

The physical changes are one thing, but the emotional transformation has been dramatic, too.

As Hall's mom describes it, her son used to be reclusive, and would mostly stay in his room.

Syrus Hall, 17, with his mother Carla Saunée, 39, at their home in Mobile, Ala. "You can't write a bill when you have zero experience with the transgender population," Saunée says.
Edmund D. Fountain for NPR

Now that he's transitioning, she sees him becoming more confident and social, with good friends.

"He's more himself," Saunée says. "He's happy. You know, he's like a big kid. He'll still sit on my lap and cuddle up with me, and those are things he wasn't doing before."

The swift progress of the trans medical care ban through the Alabama legislature has caused anxiety for families like theirs.

"Throughout the last few weeks," Dr. Ladinsky says, "almost every clinic visit [has] ended with either a parent or a child choking back tears, saying, 'Where do you think those bills are going? Is it really gonna happen?'"

The Alabama legislation is called the Vulnerable Child Compassion and Protection Act.

It passed overwhelmingly in the state Senate, by a vote of 23-4, and could go before the full House as early as this week.

At a House health committee hearing this month, lawmakers heard an impassioned plea from Sgt. David Fuller with the Gadsden, Ala., police department, who is father to a transgender girl.

"The health care she got [at the UAB gender health clinic] was vital to her staying alive," he told the committee. "If you take this health care out, my kid's dead."

Those testifying in favor of the bill included retired Alabama pediatrician Bill Whitaker, who claimed, "The truth is that there are only two sexes based on biology, female and male, that it's impossible to change one's sex."

Pediatrician Den Trumbull of Montgomery stated, "Medical procedures intended to alter or delay the normal sexual development of a gender-confused child is child abuse."

The bill's sponsor, state Sen. Shay Shelnutt, R-Trussville, has defended his legislation this way: "The bottom line is, we have a responsibility to protect Alabama's children. Minors are not mentally capable to make a decision of this caliber."

Those who treat transgender youth say remarks like these are not just factually wrong; they also stigmatize an already marginalized and vulnerable population.

This month, the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a statement calling bills that prohibit trans medical care, or that ban trans girls from women's sports teams, "dangerous."

The academy warned that the bills "[threaten] the health and well-being of transgender youth," and concluded, "Politics has no place here."

For Dr. Ladinsky, the spread of anti-trans medical care legislation around the country is deeply disturbing. "There is a lot of viscerally repugnant language in those bills that really evoke pain and evoke fear and couldn't be farther from the truth," she says.

She points out that in their Birmingham clinic, no minor child is making the decision for treatment on their own. There is a detailed informed-consent process, and the child, their parents and the entire medical team all have to agree on a treatment plan.

Ladinsky also emphasizes that their hospital never performs gender-affirming surgery on minors.

But if the Alabama bill becomes law, she and her medical team could be charged with class C felonies for prescribing puberty blockers or hormones.

That means they could face up to 10 years in prison.

"As a doctor and a parent, the idea of this precedent scares the living crap outta me," Ladinsky says.

Bills like the medical care ban, she says, would "extend the reach or overreach of a state legislature. ... into the domain of parenting, and into the intrinsically sacred space of medical decision-making between a parent, child and the physician."

Earlier this month, the bill's Senate sponsor, Shay Shelnutt, acknowledged that he has never spoken to a transgender youth.

That admission boggles the mind of Hall's mom, Carla Saunée.

"I would ask him just to spend the day with us," she offers. "Let's have a conversation. It doesn't even have to be us! Find you a transgender youth and be around them, and experience who they are. You can't write a bill when you have zero experience with the transgender population."

There's another part of the Alabama legislation that infuriates Saunée, who teaches marketing and business technology at a public high school in Mobile.

It's a section that would force school staff to out transgender children to their parents.

"I think it would be dangerous," Saunée says, for students whose families would reject their gender identity.

"If a kid comes to me and asks me to call them by their pronouns and their name, I'm not going to deny them that," Saunée says, "because they deserve to be comfortable in an environment that is meant for them to be safe in. ... Who are you to tell me as an educator that I have to go break trust with a student, to out them to their parents, when that is not my place, at all?"

LGBTQ advocacy groups are gearing up for immediate court challenges if any of the medical care bans bubbling up around the country become law.

For Hall, Alabama's legislation would deny something essential: the person he knows himself to be. And, he says, the notion that he's a "gender-confused child" who's just "going through a phase" causes real pain.

"It's wrong," he says. "It's really messed up. And it hurts people. When people who know who they are can't access the things they need to make themselves feel better, it's awful."

Copyright 2021 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.

NOEL KING, HOST:

Twenty state legislatures have introduced bills that would prohibit gender-affirming medical care for transgender children. One of the toughest bills is in Alabama. It would make it a felony to provide transition-related medical treatment like puberty blockers or hormones to trans kids. Here's NPR's Melissa Block.

MELISSA BLOCK, BYLINE: Meet Syrus Hall, who lives in Mobile, Ala., with his twin sisters, his mom and her fiance and his pet fish...

SYRUS: Good morning, buddy.

(SOUNDBITE OF SHAKING FISH FOOD)

SYRUS: It's time to eat.

BLOCK: ...A brilliant blue crowntail betta.

SYRUS: His name is Florence.

BLOCK: Syrus is 17, a high school junior, who hopes to study forensics in college.

SYRUS: I'm thinking about being either, you know, like, a forensics investigator or a forensic psychologist.

BLOCK: Syrus was assigned female at birth, but around fifth grade, when he hit puberty...

SYRUS: That's when I started to fully get uncomfortable with, like, the way that I looked or the way that I felt. Like, in my head, I looked a different way than I looked in the mirror.

BLOCK: Even though he was feeling this way, Syrus says he didn't know how to explain it.

SYRUS: I didn't find out the words for, like, who I am. Like, I didn't know that trans people existed until I was about 12 or 13. Like, I had never heard of trans people.

BLOCK: That's where the Internet comes in. Syrus says he spent long nights online doing research to figure out who he is. And ultimately, he came out as trans to his family. Last August, with his mother's permission and after lengthy psychological counseling, he was prescribed testosterone, weekly shots. On a recent Zoom call with his pediatrician, Dr. Morissa Ladinsky, Syrus sounded bubbly as they talked about the changes he's started to see.

SYRUS: The first thing I noticed was hair. Just...

MORISSA LADINSKY: You started growing so much hair.

SYRUS: And I was, like, excited because, you know, I was like, oh, something's happening; this is so cool. And then I started noticing, you know, my voice changing a little bit.

LADINSKY: That voice, I'm loving it.

SYRUS: (Laughter).

LADINSKY: See that laugh? I love that laugh.

BLOCK: The physical changes are one thing; the emotional transformation has been dramatic, too. As Syrus' mom Carla Saunee describes it, her son used to be reclusive, would mostly stay in his room. Now that he's transitioning, he's more confident and social, has good friends.

CARLA SAUNEE: He's more himself. He's happy, you know? He's like a big kid. He'll still sit on my lap and cuddle up with me, you know? And those are things he wasn't doing before.

BLOCK: So Carla and Syrus and their medical team have watched with alarm as the Alabama Legislature advances a bill that would outlaw his hormone treatment. It's called the Vulnerable Child Compassion and Protection Act. It passed overwhelmingly in the state Senate and could go to the full House as early as this week. Here's a sampling of arguments in favor of the bill - first, from retired Alabama pediatrician Bill Whitaker...

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

BILL WHITAKER: The truth is that there are only two sexes based on biology, female and male - that it's impossible to change one's sex.

BLOCK: ...Also, pediatrician Den Trumbull...

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

DEN TRUMBULL: Medical procedures intended to alter or delay the normal sexual development of a gender-confused (ph) child is child abuse.

BLOCK: ...And the bill's sponsor, state Senator Shay Shelnutt.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

SHAY SHELNUTT: Bottom line is we have a responsibility to protect Alabama's children. Minors are not mentally capable to make a decision of this caliber.

BLOCK: Those who treat transgender youth say remarks like these are not just factually wrong; they also stigmatize an already marginalized population. This month, the American Academy of Pediatrics called bills that prohibit trans medical care or other bills that ban trans girls from women's sports teams dangerous. The academy warned the bills threaten the health and well-being of transgender youth.

LADINSKY: There is a lot of viscerally repugnant language in those bills that really evoke pain and evoke fear and couldn't be farther from the truth.

BLOCK: That's Dr. Ladinsky, Syrus' pediatrician, who points out that in her clinic, no minor child is making the decision for treatment on their own. The child, parents and entire medical team have to agree through a lengthy, informed consent process. And Ladinsky emphasizes that their hospital never performs gender-affirming surgery on minors. But if the Alabama bill becomes law, she and her medical team could be charged with felonies for prescribing puberty blockers or hormones. That means they could face 10 years in prison.

LADINSKY: The idea of this precedent scares the living crap out of me.

BLOCK: Ladinsky is part of a pediatric gender health team at the University of Alabama in Birmingham, a team that also includes an endocrinologist, psychologists and a chaplain.

LADINSKY: Throughout the last few weeks, you know, almost every clinic visit have ended with either a parent or a child choking back tears, saying, where do you think those bills are going? Is it really going to happen?

BLOCK: The bill's sponsor, Senator Shelnutt, has acknowledged he has never spoken to a transgender youth, which boggles the mind of Syrus Hall's mom, Carla Saunee.

SAUNEE: I would ask him just to spend the day with us. Let's have a conversation. It doesn't even have to be us. You know, find you a transgendered youth and be around them and experience who they are. You can't write a bill when you have zero experience with the transgender population.

BLOCK: And there's another part of the Alabama bill that infuriates Saunee. She's a public high school teacher and the bill would force school staff to out transgender children to their parents.

SAUNEE: Who are you to tell me as an educator that I have to go break trust with a student to out them to their parents when that is not my place at all?

BLOCK: As for 17-year-old Syrus, he says it's simple; people who support this legislation would deny something essential - the person he knows himself to be.

SYRUS: I've been told that before. Like, people are like, oh, it's just a phase; you're going to grow out of it - blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it makes me mad because, like, it hurts people. Like, when people who know who they are can't access the things they need to make themselves feel better, it's awful.

BLOCK: LGBTQ advocacy groups are gearing up for immediate court challenges if any of the medical care bans bubbling up around the country become law.

Melissa Block, NPR News.

(SOUNDBITE OF SOULAR ORDER'S "VOID") Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.