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Author Jill Lapore discusses new book 'The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State'

NPR | By Michel Martin
Published August 25, 2026 at 2:44 AM MDT

NPR's Michel Martin speaks with Harvard professor and writer at the New Yorker Jill Lepore about her new book, "The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State."

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