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Oliver Uberti and Ryan Huling

Oliver Ubierti, Publisher: Avery Publishing Group

Our fellow animals have been shaping the world—and even guiding humans—far longer than we’ve ever realized but many see only human spaces as “inhabited”. On Animal Concerns of Texas, Liz and Tom talk with Oliver Uberti and Ryan Huling about their book, "The Hidden Nations of Animals, A Grand Tour of Earth’s Wild Civilizations", which takes readers on an odyssey to far-flung places like Canada’s “beaver belt,” bat cities of the American Southwest and secluded margins of the Korean DMZ, to unveil a world brimming with life and abundance.

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This program originally aired on August 9, 2026

Liz Walsh is a Professor of Biological Sciences at the University of Texas at El Paso. She is also a member of the national Sierra Club Wildlife & Endangered Species Activist Team. Dr. Walsh also serves on the Executive Committee of the El Paso Regional Sierra Club Group, and as a board member of the Vegetarian Society of El Paso. Liz is also interim president of the Vegetarian Society of El Paso.
Tom Linney works with the Animal Legal Defense Fund (ALDF) Animal Law Program and is on the board of Pets Alive-El Paso. Among other duties, Tom is responsible for developing and marketing ALDF’s Animal Law Pro Bono Program to interested firms and attorneys and for helping students transition from law student to legal professional. He also provides support to professionals interested in teaching animal law and collaborates with ALDF’s Litigation and Criminal Justice Program to assign appropriate pro bono counsel to ALDF projects and cases.
Ava Elder is in charge of being an on air board operator and producing shows like Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me, Travel With Rick Steves, and others. Ava provides detailed weather and traffic updates, and makes sure each broadcast she is in charge of goes smoothly so that listeners can enjoy what they are hearing.
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